Submitted by imhtweety (not verified) on Mon, 2008-02-18 06:10.
I believe this will be a great site to use. I'm the music director for our church. I am have a hard time finding what I need. Does the site offer words and chords to songs as well as midi?
What exactly are you hoping to find -- powerpoints with words for display in your church? Guitar cords for musicians?
We have words for about 2400 hymns, but for modern songs that are still under copyright, we will not be able to add the words in most cases. Unfortunately, there are legal restrictions for songs that are still under copyright, so you are not likely to find such words anywhere on the internet, at least not legally.
For copyrighted works, our model is more like this: you probably have a personal collection of hymnals or songbooks. You can search here to find out which book has a song you want in the correct key, etc. Then you get the book off your shelf for use.
For uncopyrighted songs, depending on the amount of resources, volunteer help, etc. that we have available, we're thinking about putting scores on line in such a way that you can transpose to any key. We're also thinking about powerpoint files for projection -- though we haven't decided whether to include words only or words + music. Or both.
You say you are having a hard time finding what you need. Would you please describe what you need and go about looking for it? This will help us make the site more useful.
For example, do you have a topic in mind, and you want to find a song for that topic? You need words + guitar chords for your musicians? Or do you have a scripture reference in mind and you want to find a song for the passage? Or is there a particular song for which you are trying to find guitar chords?
The older version of this was less pretty, but much easier to navigate.
I typically am trying to locate (.mid or .nwc) music to play back through a midi processor for a small congregation that lacks a musician. I know the tune name that I am searching for, and would like to be able to go fairly directly to it. Now, with tune and poetry intermixed, it requires more time than with the older version to locate the precise thing that I want, and time is something that is precious!!
Thanks for your comments. We are continuing to improve the new version and any comments and suggestions are welcome.
The two quickest ways to find a particular tune would be to type the tune name into the search box or to click the "Tunes" tab and browse to it.
Texts aren't mixed in with tunes once you click the "tunes" tab.
By the way, we're working on revising the search model a bit to improve the intuitiveness. The idea is to have "texts", "tunes", "authors", and "hymnals" tabs. Click on the sort of thing you are interested in and you'll see the first page of the entities of that sort.
Then you'll be able to refine your results list in the left sidebar -- type in part of a name or title, specify the key signature or meter, or whatever.
Submitted by Josiah John Chen on Sat, 2008-05-03 15:00.
Why don't sing PSALMS. They are perfect and without flaws. However beautiful the hymns are they are in no way can be compared to the Psalms majesty and perfection.
The Orthodox DO still sing the Psalms (the Psalms are called the hymn book of the Orthodox Church and are divided in such a way that one can read through them in a week - called the Psalter). In fact several Psalms are sung at every Orthodox service and form an important part of each service.
Also, to be a bishop in the Orthodox Church, one must have memorized the entire Psalter! This goes to show the importance of the Psalms to the Orthodox.
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, through the prayers of Thy most pure Mother, and of our venerable and God-bearing fathers, and of all the saints, have mercy upon us and save us, for Thou art good and lovest mankind."
There IS a scripture cross reference. Just type a scripture passage into the search box. No browse yet, unfortunately, just search.
We're planning to add a browse by scripture reference feature, hopefully this summer. For now, you can find songs for scripture references for some modern hymnals at http://www.hymnary.org/hymnal/NTSONG. This lets you browse songs by scripture reference for several modern hymnals. Since this indexes modern hymnals that are under copyright, it doesn't have the texts -- you'll have to go to the hymnals that are referenced.
To hard to figure out how to use.
I believe this will be a great site to use. I'm the music director for our church. I am have a hard time finding what I need. Does the site offer words and chords to songs as well as midi?
words and chords
What exactly are you hoping to find -- powerpoints with words for display in your church? Guitar cords for musicians?
We have words for about 2400 hymns, but for modern songs that are still under copyright, we will not be able to add the words in most cases. Unfortunately, there are legal restrictions for songs that are still under copyright, so you are not likely to find such words anywhere on the internet, at least not legally.
For copyrighted works, our model is more like this: you probably have a personal collection of hymnals or songbooks. You can search here to find out which book has a song you want in the correct key, etc. Then you get the book off your shelf for use.
For uncopyrighted songs, depending on the amount of resources, volunteer help, etc. that we have available, we're thinking about putting scores on line in such a way that you can transpose to any key. We're also thinking about powerpoint files for projection -- though we haven't decided whether to include words only or words + music. Or both.
What else would be useful to you?
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Harry Plantinga
what are you looking for?
imhtweety,
You say you are having a hard time finding what you need. Would you please describe what you need and go about looking for it? This will help us make the site more useful.
For example, do you have a topic in mind, and you want to find a song for that topic? You need words + guitar chords for your musicians? Or do you have a scripture reference in mind and you want to find a song for the passage? Or is there a particular song for which you are trying to find guitar chords?
---------------
Harry Plantinga
Navigation
The older version of this was less pretty, but much easier to navigate.
I typically am trying to locate (.mid or .nwc) music to play back through a midi processor for a small congregation that lacks a musician. I know the tune name that I am searching for, and would like to be able to go fairly directly to it. Now, with tune and poetry intermixed, it requires more time than with the older version to locate the precise thing that I want, and time is something that is precious!!
thanks for your comments
Thanks for your comments. We are continuing to improve the new version and any comments and suggestions are welcome.
The two quickest ways to find a particular tune would be to type the tune name into the search box or to click the "Tunes" tab and browse to it.
Texts aren't mixed in with tunes once you click the "tunes" tab.
By the way, we're working on revising the search model a bit to improve the intuitiveness. The idea is to have "texts", "tunes", "authors", and "hymnals" tabs. Click on the sort of thing you are interested in and you'll see the first page of the entities of that sort.
Then you'll be able to refine your results list in the left sidebar -- type in part of a name or title, specify the key signature or meter, or whatever.
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Harry Plantinga
CCEL Director
Scripture
It would be absolutely wonderful if you could also develop a cross reference for scripture.
Hymns
Why don't sing PSALMS. They are perfect and without flaws. However beautiful the hymns are they are in no way can be compared to the Psalms majesty and perfection.
Psalms
Josiah John Chen,
The Orthodox DO still sing the Psalms (the Psalms are called the hymn book of the Orthodox Church and are divided in such a way that one can read through them in a week - called the Psalter). In fact several Psalms are sung at every Orthodox service and form an important part of each service.
Also, to be a bishop in the Orthodox Church, one must have memorized the entire Psalter! This goes to show the importance of the Psalms to the Orthodox.
You can find music to many Orthodox hymns here.
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Dustin
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, through the prayers of Thy most pure Mother, and of our venerable and God-bearing fathers, and of all the saints, have mercy upon us and save us, for Thou art good and lovest mankind."
Re: scripture cross reference
There IS a scripture cross reference. Just type a scripture passage into the search box. No browse yet, unfortunately, just search.
We're planning to add a browse by scripture reference feature, hopefully this summer. For now, you can find songs for scripture references for some modern hymnals at http://www.hymnary.org/hymnal/NTSONG. This lets you browse songs by scripture reference for several modern hymnals. Since this indexes modern hymnals that are under copyright, it doesn't have the texts -- you'll have to go to the hymnals that are referenced.
---------------
Harry Plantinga
CCEL Director