These things did Thomas count as realAuthor: Thomas H. Troeger (1983)
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|First Line:||These things did Thomas count as real|
|Title:||These Things Did Thomas Count as Real|
|Author:||Thomas H. Troeger (1983)|
|Copyright:||Text and music © 1984, Oxford University Press, NY|
|Article:||"These Things Did Thomas Count as Real" Thomas H. Troeger by Herman G. Stuempfle (from The Hymn)|
all st. = John 20:24-29
Thomas H. Troeger (b. Suffern, NY, 1945) says, "I wrote [this] hymn to help people sing their way past doubt and skepticism to belief in the risen Christ." Inspired by the doubting Thomas story (usually read on the Sunday after Easter), Troeger wrote the text during a Lenten week he spent in the White Mountains of New Hampshire in 1983. Both text and tune were published in the Troeger/Carol Doran collection New Hymns for the Lectionary–To Glorify the Makers Name (1986). "These Things Did Thomas Count" is one of the finest of Troeger's texts and indeed of the latter twentieth century.
Stanzas 1 and 2 describe Thomas's view of reality–so close to our own materialistic conception–in fresh language that recalls Christ's crucifixion. Stanza 3 depicts the movement from doubt to faith with that wonderful line, "until his fingers read like braille the markings of the spear and nail." Stanza 4 is a prayer for true faith to receive the Christ, who holds out his hands to us as he did to Thomas.
Following his education at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut, and Colgate Rochester Divinity School, New York, Troeger was associate pastor of the Presbyterian Church in New Hartford, New York, from 1970 to 1977. In 1977 he became professor of preaching and parish ministry at his alma mater, now called Colgate Rochester Divinity /Bexley Hall/ Crozer Theological Seminary. Since 1991 he has taught homiletics and communication at Iliff School of Theology in Denver, Colorado. Troeger is an active leader of workshops and seminars on worship and often does so in association with Carol Doran. Troeger and Doran have published several hymn collections: Open to Glory (1983), New Hymns for the Lectionary (1986), and New Hymns for the Life of the Church (1992), with texts by Troeger and tunes by Doran. Troeger has also written several other books, including Are You Saved: Answers for the Awkward Question (1980) and Creating Fresh Images for Preaching (1982).
Sunday after Easter (like 393); other services that focus on issues of doubt and faith; the text is also useful for individual study or for sermon material.
--Psalter Hymnal Handbook
|Instances (1 - 7 of 7)||Title||First Line||Tune||Tune Key||Author||Meter||Scripture||Date||Subject||Source|
|Glory to God: the Presbyterian Hymnal #256||These Things Did Thomas Count as Real||These things did Thomas count as real||KEDRON||Thomas H. Troeger||LM||John 20:19-31; 1 Corinthians 15:3-8||2013||Christian Year | Easter Vigil; Christian Year | Resurrection/Easter; Faith | ; Grace | ; Jesus Christ | Resurrection; Salvation | ; Christian Year | Easter|
|Hymnal Supplement 98 #831||These Things Did Thomas Count as Real||These things did Thomas count as real||TRUTH FROM ABOVE||Thomas H. Troeger, b. 1945||LM||John 20:19-31||1998||Easter | ; Faith ||
|Hymnal Supplement II #60||These Things Did Thomas Count||These things did Thomas count as real||MERLE MARIE||1987|
|Lutheran Service Book #472||These Things Did Thomas Count as Real||These things did Thomas count as real||REALITER||Thomas H. Troeger, b. 1945||L M||John 20:19-31||2006|
|Psalter Hymnal (Gray) #394||These Things Did Thomas Count as Real||These things did Thomas count as real||MERLE MARIE||Thomas H. Troeger||LM||1 Corinthians 15; John 20:24-29||1987||Biblical Names & Places | Thomas; Doubt | ; Easter ||
|The New Century Hymnal #254||These Things Did Thomas Count||These things did Thomas count as real||DISTRESS||Thomas H. Troeger||L.M.||John 20:19-31||1995||Biblical Names | ; Doubt | ; Easter Season | ; Year A | Easter 2; Year B | Easter 2; Year C | Easter 2|
|Together in Song: Australian hymn book II #649||These things did Thomas count as real||These things did Thomas count as real||YELLOW BITTERN||Thomas Henry Troeger, 1945-||88.88||John 20:24-31||1999||Christ's Sacrifice | ; Faith | ; Jesus Christ | Resurrection; Mystery of God's Love | ; Personal Response to Jesus | ; Saints Days and Holy Days | St Thomas; Truth ||